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Author Topic: Does anyone play with a pick?  (Read 7564 times)
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I'm considering the purchase of an Ashbory,  but I play bass about half the time with a pick. Has anyone tried this on their Ashbory and is there a preferred pick material I should look at?

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I wouldn't recommend playing an Ashbory with a pick.  You could nick the strings which may then cause them to break.

Besides the strings feel so cool!  Why wouldn't you want to touch them?


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I'd go with Jeremy on this one... I use fingers, but at a recent jam a guy played mine with a pick, (tried to shred actually!), and it just wasn't happening... He also tried to slap and pop with it too which sounded atrocious... Second time someone's done that!

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at a recent jam a guy played mine with a pick


'Brother Bob' was over today (he's been playing in Boise for YEARS, he's the best guitar player I've ever known personally, and he plays bass a lot too) and he played on my Ashbory for what had to be longer than an hour. Anyway, I mentioned the whole pick thing, and he said he doubted it would be a problem, busted out a pick and played with it for about 15 minutes.

I just gave the strings a good stare and they look no worse for wear.  A duration that short would hardly constitute as proof, but it passed nonetheless.

Some observations, etc:

1. I didn't care for the tone at first at all, but Bob made adjustments (I think he moved his right hand further from the bridge) and it sounded good, though the fingers are still better sounding IMO. He make adjustments.

2. Bob seemed reasonably sure the pick wouldn't cause problems, but also pointed out that using a fresh pick that hadn't had the edges sharpened/roughened from wear from playing on metal strings would be a good idea.


Certainly not proof that picks are okay, but they are mentioned for use in the old Guild slick and the brief trial by fire from a professional was successful.

That said, the fingers still sound better.


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I just bought a few thin, stiff felt picks. (these were pick-shaped, and white...the store also some thicker rectangular gray ones that seemed pretty akward). I took some coarse sand paper and rounded the edges, and so far, they seem to work really well. I believe these picks are for uke players, and are a little bit hard to find, but worth the effort.
   
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I just bought a few thin, stiff felt picks.
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and so far, they seem to work really well.


I have a felt pick sitting in the flat, bought purely out of curiosity a year ago, so I tried it on my Ashbory. It's an interesting sound.

A "standard" pick doesn't give a "standard" sound, as most of you are aware. These felt jobs seem to give a similar tone to a picked electric bass. Oddly though (to a guitar player like myself) it's quieter than the finger picked sound.

I might look around for more felt picks.


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I've played my DeArmond often with a pick.  I find that in lends a unique attack to the sound that to me, sometimes when recording, is preferable to fingers.  

I usually play with my fingers or thumb, but I have not found there to be any problem from using a pick.  I imagine this would depend somewhat on what pick you used.
   
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Too bad I can't find anymore felt picks, cuz they'd probably sound good.
I noticed then the pick seemed to slow down when it touched the strings, so I'm thinking of trying it next time with that Slyde-Rite Stuff.

But this bass sounds really really good with or without a pick  :lol:


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I've got the slim felt "uke" picks and the large thick soft "bass" ones. I prefer fingers, but you can get some interesting "bowed" overtones with the larger ones.


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If anyone is interested in purchasing felt picks (thick or thin), you can go to http://www.ukuleleworld.com.  I believe Flea Market Music has them as well, although I won't swear to it.  They're at http://www.flea-mkt-music.com.

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I found a couple of elderly, very thin plastic picks and used them. They give sharpness to the attack, which I cannot get with fingers, nor felt picks. For more rock or country-orientated stuff, I recommend it. Can't see any signs of excessive wear.

I don't alter the settings - bass and volume on full and treble on half. My bass teacher is impressed with the tonal variety the Ashbory gets with the different right-hand techniques - I started playing clawhammer on it! Works well.

Will now read the "Bowing" thread. :twisted:


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Unlike everyone else (who I hear were all sax players) I cut my teeth as a guitarist playing hard rock and metal in the '80s. I got bored with the wanky soloing, was always writing odd time sycopated stuff that only the drummer could follow, etc., and I finally realized maybe I should try other instruments... Anyway, back when I was still playing guitar all the time, I distinctly remember playing a Guild Ashbory at a local store, when the bass first arrived. The salesmen were talking about it, saying it sounded weird and no one could get it to sound right, etc. I picked it up and played around with it a few minutes, then plugged it in and started to wail.
I played a hyper version of 'Ain't Got A Thing' and something else, then I ripped through a new song I'd been trying to teach our bassist. The drummer and I were looking at the bass and didn't notice that the (rather large) store had gone silent, and all eyes were on me. I finally noticed it, when the manager said, "Well, apparently someone can play it." Bass wasn't my instrument at the time, though...
Anyway, I played everything with a pick, usually at double speed. I always played extra thin (red) Dunlop Tortex picks. They flex easily, so you can play fast notes, and they won't tear at the strings the way heavy picks will. They tend to have rough edges, so you may want to sand the edges or rub them on some a concrete or brick surface for a few seconds, to prevent string damage. Most guitar and bass shops carry them, and they're usually a quarter each. You might try a couple of the lighter guages. I'm a strong guy with big hands, and part of the reason I used light picks was to keep from breaking strings all the time. I've actually broken strings on a basses quite a few times (invariably during a performance), just from playing so hard. If you don't play quite that hard, you might go with a slightly heavier pick.
I can see felt picks working well. I wouldn't recommend plastic picks in light or medium guage, though, because they tend to break, leaving sharp edges.
Here's a weird idea that might appeal to those who occasionally need a picked note or want a picked/fingered combination: look for wraparound thumb picks in a medium to heavy guage. They wrap around your thumb about where your thumbnail ends, and the pick extends down towards the strings. They're designed for bluegrass fingerpickers, but they are handy for certain songs. Once you get used to it, it's like having a pick tethered to your thumb (and if you're really good, and need or want to, you can twist it out of the way and still slap notes). Be careful at first, if you have thick thumbs, because the pick will rub your thumb, and it can get REALLY sore in no time.
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I've used a pick on my 2 Ashborys over time(years) never caused any problems with the strings.....I need that "cut" even when playing along with cds...and I love the tone too! Its great when I play along in practice with older Elvis etc. records with that so called tic tac bass sound are easily mimicked with an Ashbory.       I also am use to fingering hard with my right hand....so the use of a pick is necessary for me when switching over from a standard long scale bass to the Ashbory..
   
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I just bought a few thin, stiff felt picks. (these were pick-shaped, and white...the store also some thicker rectangular gray ones that seemed pretty akward). I took some coarse sand paper and rounded the edges, and so far, they seem to work really well. I believe these picks are for uke players, and are a little bit hard to find, but worth the effort.

I wondered about felt picks when I read the initial post.  You don't see felt picks much anymore.  Come to think of it, I haven't seen one in years.  I started playing bass with a felt pick back in the early 60's.  I'll have to check my local music store to see if they have any in stock.


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Felt pics are easy to buy, all you need to do is order them from your local music store and then wait about four weeks. I'm in Australia so maybe ordering from America takes a little longer. Also you can buy small felt sheets from a craft store in different sizes and cut them to whatever shape you need (www.pacon.com/.../felt_assortments.php). If the felt pics are too soft you can stick 2 together with some craft glue (not superglue).(www.eaglemusicshop.com/guitars/accessories/)(wantitnow.ebay.com/felt-ukelele-picks).
Cheers,
Alex


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