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March 10, 2010, 04:25:56 PM
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Author Topic: New LOW-TENSION Polyurethane Strings - Review and How-To  (Read 5691 times)
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A review of the Poly strings, as written by a heavy metal bassist....

These strings do have some major advantages. Namely the durability of the strings and the fact that you no longer have to use the dreaded talc. I do find a certain peace of mind in knowing that the odds of these strings breaking are quite remote. Additionally, the silicone lubricant from the local hardware store really does work beautifully as a string lubricant.

My complaints on the strings...

1) It has been my experience that the intonation on the Pahoehoes take quite a bit longer to set in, even with the pre stretching and such. I've had my strings on for about 2 weeks and I am still having a little trouble keeping these in tune.

2) I'm getting a lot of rattle at the nut with the higher 2 strings.It may be my low tuning (CGCF) causing this, but it may not. I use a capo behind the nut to improve sustain like most folks do, but if I ever take that capo off, the string rattle is unbearable.

3) While these strings do have a bit more punch, I find that the lower 2 strings have a lot of overtones coming out. So much so, that When my band did some recording last week, I had to (brace yourself) put down my ashbory and use a conventional bass. Imagine my embarassment.

Now, this is not to say that the Pahoehoes will not work for you. As it applies to my music, it would appear that they don't work for me. I'm going to give them one last chance at practice tonight. If they still don't suit my needs, I'll be going back to the stock strings.
   
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Anybody tried the "Dreads"? I ordered some and I'll let you all know how they are - they have the new style crimps just like the black ones according to to photos. BTW the price has gone up to $24 for both the black and multi-colored "Dreads" sets:
http://www.roadtoadmusic.com/accessories.html
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I just worked a little modification today in the low tension strings on the bridge end. I'm not changing the 20"-21" scale standard strings (my basses and Kala U-Bass), but for the 18" low tension, I shortened the crimp on the E by grinding off 5mm to 6mm and added a crimp to the G by looping the end back and crimping over the looped string. After reading this thread, I can see that the big crimp was not really compatible with your Ashbory instruments, though no issue with my ukulele basses. I hope the modification will help y'all out.


Hmm... this thread is a bit messed up as you can only see a bunch of the posts (like the VERY important one quoted above) that should be on page three if you start a reply? The "hidden" posts are dated  4/29/09 thru 7/13/09, a total of 8 posts "hidden" :(.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 08:35:51 PM by RoadRanger »
   

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> Hmm... this thread is a bit messed up as you can only see a bunch of the posts (like the VERY important one quoted above) that should be on page three if you start a reply? The "hidden" posts are dated  4/29/09 thru 7/13/09, a total of 8 posts "hidden" :(.

That appears to be a forum software bug, and if you clicked on the page numbers instead of "next" you'd get everything. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. If there's really any hidden posts, or problems like you experienced, please let me know.

-Brock


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That appears to be a forum software bug, and if you clicked on the page numbers instead of "next" you'd get everything. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. If there's really any hidden posts, or problems like you experienced, please let me know.
Maybe I have a different "view" of the forum than you do? "next" gets me to the next topic, not the next page. Clicking on the page numbers is what I was/am doing and I definitely can't "see" those 8 posts.
   
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I wuz just wonderin' if anyone has tried mixing strings? It is just the "G"  string that breaks often? I think I read that even the stock "G" sounds different than the other strings anyways?
   

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Clicking on the page numbers is what I was/am doing and I definitely can't "see" those 8 posts.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. This is odd. I'll have to dig around the database tonight and see what's there.

-Brock


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Brock, the same is happening with me. I couldn't see those missing posts either, BUT now that I'm replying to the thread, I CAN see them. Most peculiar!!

On the subject of strings, any info on when you'll have the G strings in stock again, or the full sets?
   
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On the subject of strings, any info on when you'll have the G strings in stock again, or the full sets?
Yah, I would have ordered a couple with the Ashbory I just ordered from here. I did confirm that Mike Tavener still has his "alternative" strings:
http://ashborystring.website.orange.co.uk
   

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This is what I get for running "Release Candidate" forum software*. I'll look at updates over the weekend. Thanks for letting me know what you're seeing everyone, or in this case, what you're NOT seeing.

As to strings, I know Kelly (Mrs. Large Sound Commerce) has some on order and they are supposed to arrive soon.


-Brock

* On the positive, it has solved my forum spam issues, so there's an upside.


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This is what I get for running "Release Candidate" forum software*. I'll look at updates over the weekend.
Oh hey, while you're under the hood bangin' on the carburetor and such you might want to consider making the default for new users to be that they are notified of replies to threads they posted to. You'd get a lot more participation if folks didn't have to remember to log in and check for replies manually. BTW anybody reading this you can change your defaults under "profile" I believe - I did. You can also subscribe to threads and subforums individually to get any new stuff sent to you ;D.
   
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Hello folks,
Just ordered a black ashbory this week...have been playing bass in general for about half-a-year
wonder wiley if you're still having positive results with your strings...thanks for your time and efforts on this site everyone.
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Hello folks,
Just ordered a black ashbory this week...have been playing bass in general for about half-a-year
wonder wiley if you're still having positive results with your strings...thanks for your time and efforts on this site everyone.
greg

Hi Greg,

Yep, my original set of Pahoehoe strings are hangin' in there just fine.  The polyurethane strings settled in at about 3 weeks...and I never looked back.  A spare set of Fender OEM strings that I got when I bought my Ashbory are still kicking around here somewhere.  I really don't know where they are, and I doubt that I will ever need them.

I'm now splitting my playing time between my 'bory and a low-end Cort (think Ibanez) 4-string bass.  I use the Ashbory when I play with a Hawaiian slack-key group.  I use the Cort for everything else.  The 'bory's buttery tone sounds great with the mic'd guitars, ukes and voices.  I know for sure that I would not be comfortable playing the Ashbory if I were using the (IMHO) unpredictable silicone strings.  With so few instruments in the group, and no other percussive instruments, a popped string and the resultant loss of a bass line could be very traumatic.

Enjoy that new Ashbory!  You'll get used to fretless quicker than you think.
   

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Wiley,

Just an amusing thought, if you Cort and your Ashbory are from the some country, they may also have been produced at the same factory.

-Brock


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Wiley,

Just an amusing thought, if you Cort and your Ashbory are from the some country, they may also have been produced at the same factory.

-Brock

Brock,

Now, that's a factoid that I hadn't considered.  Once made in Korea, Cort/Ibinez and a bazillion OEM'd house brands are now made in Indonesia.  There is quite a story about how that switch took place.  The cause of the move was related to the fact that (can you believe it?) Korean labor became too expensive and too well organized to suit Cort.  I understand the mass-production musical-instrument business is pretty brutal in Asia.  Without any labor/safety laws in place, the employer pretty much has his way with the workers.

Well, I know I'm just feeding that repressive machine, but DANG, they do turn out some economical and good sounding products...don't they? 

Now, see what you've gone and done Brock!

I hope I can sleep tonight. :-\
   
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