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September 07, 2010, 06:57:06 AM
News: Welcome to Large Sound 3.0 -- The forums! Let me know if you see anything odd or wrong. Thanks!   -Brock (frazier@largesound.com)

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Thank you very much Bass Face


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AS much as I hate losing a bet, I have to hand it to Wiley: the Pahoehoes' sustain and tone do improve DRAMATICALLY after they've stretched for 3 to 4 weeks.  Seems like I owe the Coyote-Man a coke.

BTW, Wiley, how often do you restring your 'bory?  These Pahoehoes seem to be build to last forever.


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it'll be okay, just put on your bass face.
   

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ROOTS ROCK REGGAE
I have been using the pahoehoes for a few months now and the original strings for about a year before that, my experience is as follows:
The original strings give more sustain and 'mwah', they are closer to the sound of an upright bass.
The pahoehoes have less sustain and 'mwah' and sound more like a muted electric bass.
I prefer the sound of the original strings, but after 3 or 4 breakages, I can't afford the risk of one snapping mid gig - it's not as if I can quickly re-string because they take ages to settle down and stay in tune.
I also hate the talc which gets everywhere - people were starting to think I had a coke habit !
Mike's strings are very similar to the Fenders IME and I've had them break just as quickly.
For me, the pahoehoes are the best compromise, but I agree with the previous post that the E and A feel more like the originals than the D and G.
I play reggae, so the muted sound works well but if I was playing jazz I might go back to the originals - I have even considered getting another Ashbory strung with the old strings to give me the choice.


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After using the Pahoehoes for 6+ weeks, I've noticed that the sustain became very similar to the Fender's.  If there's any difference, it'd be in the 1/10s of a second.

The tone is different--but not worse at all.  The Pahoehoes are darker, with more fundamental and less treble harmonics.  The difference is just a matter of musical taste: if the Fenders sound like Ray Brown, the Pahoehoes sound like Mingus.

At this point I'm going to venture and say that--as with all non-fretted instruments--the Pahohoe strings will sound better and better with each day they stay in the bass under tension. 

The same would happen to the Fenders if they didn't break so often.


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I also hate the talc which gets everywhere - people were starting to think I had a coke habit !
When I bought my first Ashbory Bass used in 1996, it had a plastic bag of white powder in the gig bag. And, I bought it from a pawn shop. I was all "hmmmmmm".  No need for concern, the powder wasn't illegal! The bass was defective, however, which led to this:
http://www.largesound.com/ashborydoc/other/1996rebuild/

In hindsight, I'm glad it was broken. That was a motivator for the original AIR page, which led to Large Sound. Also, I got to talk with Alun Ashworth-Jones in the process.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2010, 03:00:29 AM by Brock »


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A to the S to the H to the B - O - R - Y!
   

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Seems like a good place to ask whether anyone has ever tried leather-cord strings?



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Seems like a good place to ask whether anyone has ever tried leather-cord strings?

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I really don't think there's that big of a difference between the sound of the 2 strings. I think we adjust our attack, mute our strings, and EQ our amps to what sounds right to us. Or maybe it's because my Ashbory is red that it sounds best to me, and I play better, with the Pano's.  ;)
   

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I like it - Pano's.  Did you come up with that one johninmemphis?
   
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A sad day...    I give up on the silicone strings. Not mad. The largesound community makes it perfectly clear that this is just part of the Ashbory experience.

To put this in perspective, I'm one of those guys who tune CGDA. (like a cello, mandola, etc.) Since I tune the 'G' string up a whole tone, I thought you might like to get a different view. Your mileage may vary.

Today I picked up my Ash only to find my sixth 'A' string broken. In about a year. I don't thrash my strings, but I don't baby them either.

- Unlike the other three strings, my six A strings have NEVER settled in pitch. Every one required just a slight increase in tension each time I played them.
- Breakage had nothing to do with the cases. My Ash stays on a wall hanger, and that's where they break.
- Typical life at full tension: four to six weeks.
- Really unfortunate is that the A string had the best sound, with lots of mid-range overtones.
- The string that broke last night was detuned approx. a minor third when I put it away yesterday.

Ordered the pahoehoes today. Regardless of sound, I need a stable instrument. I'll re-post in a couple of months with a review.


   

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How about a string that sounds like a Silicon, but everything else is like the Pano?  It will be interesting to hear what you think of them when they arrive.  You might have to adjust your playing style slightly and EQ on the amp to get the sound your looking for.  But say goodbye to powder and string breakage.
   
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